Category: London directories

London 1842 street directory, pubs history and RBKC Library

Well, today, as ever, I am continuing to build a complete London street directory for 1842 in addition to that of London in 1832, both Robsons directories. I am now working through letter T, and nearing completion.

All of the Robsons 1832 street directory is on the site, except I keep finding bits missing, e.g. Trafalgar square! It was there in 1832, I checked. Many other streets appear to have been missed, and I am slowly adding these as I see fit.

One street missing was Tichborne street, Edgware road. As usual, I check that it did exist in this period, using my Pigots 1833 pub listing. I then wondered about the spelling, and chucked the address into google. I came across an amazing photograph, and even more amazing is that it is on my pub history site – see previous link.

Further amazing pictures started to be listed, and this led me to Dave. I think either the blog is written by Dave, or he has a friend called Dave; both are plausible. I am noting this here, as I have spent quite a lot of time reading the articles, they are interesting, and I shall read the rest slowly. One of the Daves is a Local Studies Librarian for the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea. Brilliant blog – called the RBKC.

I spend quite  lot of time updating my sites, and adding new sites of historical interest. I hope somebody likes my style, however boring it may look. I keep checking to see how I am getting on in google search for London street directory, currently 6,12 & 13. And for London 1832 street directory, most of the first 40 entries, etc.

The pub history site is also not bad, but a little clinical; and the local search engine only finds the latest updates. All of my 1899 pub listing, with all pubs linked to is ignored, as it is not a recent update. I will have to rebuild all of these pages.

Lots to do. And the house is to be plastered on Thursday & Friday. This makes a change from me being plastered; and lots of clearing still needs to be done. And Blue Planet II music is playing again for about the 50th time in succession. I love the last track which is so beautiful, yet very sad. Track 19 – Walrus: The right piece of Ice.

Yes, a bit sad, but music to be played out to, if you know what I mean.

The amazing London pub history site

I have spent the day updating a couple of pages of pubs starting with the letter W , being very old public houses in the 1832 era. This was in the time of William IV, son of George III, about nine years before Queen Victoria came to the throne and two years before slavery was abolished, apparently.

I have found most of these pubs on the site, and linked to the relevant page.

I have to say, this is pretty amazing to be able to do this. It shows how the pub history site has evolved over the last 18 years in which I have been building it, along with a number of incredible people continually updating me with updates, often too fast, but always with ground breaking new information.

I am very proud to say that I know this is the best London pub history site that will ever exist; and also that I am slowly building it towards an entire London history site about all of the streets in London, obviously we’ll need a pub somewhere!

Thanks as ever to Stephen Harris and Ewan, and many others for this remarkable London history site. And the 1832 London street directory along with the London 1842 street directory continues to build slowly.

Enjoy.

 

 

Streets missing in the London 1832 street directory listed in 1842 directory

It appears the Robsons 1832 street directory is missing a number of streets. I noticed this earlier with a street in Mile end. The 1842 street directory does list the streets, and by checking for specific pubs in my London Pigots 1833-34 directory I can confirm the street existed in about 1832. I don’t obviously have a listing of the entire street, but  I can add a few entries to start it off with the relevant public houses. This was Devonshire street, Globe road, Mile end.

The same goes for the Euston square area, and I had spotted this earlier, but started to presume that it was a new road – wrong! I have just added Drummond street, Euston square for both years. The page is a little untidy at present; but it will improve over time. I will add other streets as I find them, and will go back to check on areas I have already passed by at some stage.

The London street directory is blooming marvellous, well I think so. It’s a lot of work.

London street directory in 1842

Its time for the latest updates on History in London in 1842. One street which was of interest is Fludyer street, in Westminster. I originally thought is was an early name for Downing street, apparently I cannot jump to these conclusions lightly, and was slightly wrong. It is very close, but not quite the same street.

What is correct, is that the London 1842 street directory is just getting bigger and better. I have added all of the London 1832 street inhabitants already. I have now spent the day adding the letter C for 1842 and also now working on letter D. The London directory just keeps getting better and more useful. Most of this directory is on the site, but not quite all.

As mentioned in a previous blog, the 1842 London street directory is brilliant for finding people and old London pubs, who are listed in the 1841 census but do not have a clear address, i.e. they are named and in a specific road or street. This directory is a quick way of scanning this listing to find that person, and it is well indexed alphabetically.  The directory for 1842 has not been transcribed, and therefore a visual check is necessary, but if you are searching for just pubs and inns etc, it is likely that other listings on the site also hold similar detail. The 1833-34 Pigots directory is particularly useful. These other listings are available through the London Pub history pages which are also listed by London parish. You can also use the search engine, which is not bad, and searches about 50 thousand + pages on my sites.

One of  the downsides of building such an amazing site is that many people think it is a historical site of the past, built in the past, and that there are few updates to this site. This is far from the truth, and the site/s are updated every day with masses of new / old detail. Just today there have been over three hundred updates which are either new pages or images added to this London street directory of 1842.

I welcome feedback for the site, rather than just the regular emails asking about whether there are any additional pictures available! This site/ sites just keep getting better. I also welcome updates for the site/s.

Kevan

 

My lovely London street directory, Mile end road & the Isle of Dogs in maps

I am sort of overstepping my mark by making this a blog about the Isle of Dogs. The main reason is to flag up a site which I am nothing like, but I do things differently. If you want to see how to use maps in a brilliant manner, visit the Isle of Dogs blog ; it is pretty special; and I want a reminder of this blog. Mick is one of my contributors to the pub site.

Back onto my lovely London directory. I have been using it masses today. As I am working on some of the earlier records. e.g. in 1805 and 1820s, a street directory for 1832 comes in real handy.

Also, I was having a quick scan of the Whitechapel 1841 census earlier. My god, how easy was that to work out what pub a person was in, when I also had the 1842 street directory to compare with. Do you know what, I think I have finally cracked it, and all without maps so far – that’s the next bit to do.

As my usual aside, my wife came running downstairs with her laptop to show me St Marks square in Venice today. It is flooded massively, I think 150 centimetres of rain was mentioned! That’s five feet! It was a whole lot drier last week.

What else, oh yes, the Kings Head in Mile end road at 230; now just a kebab shop. After following some of the links from the London 1832 street directory, and also noting quite  a bit of early research added to the pub, I am now almost 100% certain this was previously the Weavers Arms, and goes back to  about 1823 with additional earlier pubs added for the same licensee.

I am now off to watch Paddington station on Channel 5, brilliant.

 

Spitalfields, Gravesend, Venice & London 1842 directory

Lots to report in this new post. I took a short trip to Venice, the Italian version, and had a wonderful break for a few days. During this time, I started to read a rather brilliant historical book by Dan Cruickshanks on Spitalfields. I had a book token to use, and this book took my fancy! It is rather excellent so far, and more.

I did not know that Spital comes from the word hospital, apparently it does. The book on Spitalfields is quite heavy reading, and more a textbook rather than a light read. That’s OK, it is pretty brilliant so far, after about the first few chapters. Interestingly, amongst the credits are a favourite of mine, Sarah Wise; and also the Spitalfields Life website and many more.

A quick aside, my wife and I had a long, drawn out discussion about the words utmost & upmost; we both use different words, as we were both unaware of the other word. Look these words up if you want to know the general outcome!

Once home from a break, I answered an interesting email on Gravesend. It took me two days of my research time to update Gravesend pub history in about 1851. For the record, Gravesend is not in London, it is fairly near, but in Kent on the southern borders of the River Thames. It made a splash in the news recently because of a Beluga whale from the Arctic spending some time here.

Finally, I am back to updating the London street directory for 1842 / 1832 etc. By tomorrow, all of the letter B should be complete with 1842 street directory images, e.g. Brook street, Ratcliff.

Enjoy

 

London 1832 street directory is now complete, stage 1

I am proud to announce that the London 1832 street directory is complete, in the sense that I have finished transcribing the original Robsons 1832 London street directory, and is now listed street by street on my new site – london19.com.

Also, all of the pubs listed should have a link to their historical reference page on the pub history site – pubshistory.com. I am guessing there may be a maximum of 5% of the pubs not linked, or maybe as low as 2%. That is stage one of this project complete.

For info, stage 2 is to add the entirety of the 1842 Robsons directory as image to each relevant page. Much of this has been done, but still lots to add.

Stage 3 is to add a mapping reference to each street, I have added a few, but this will take some time, I think. This links to the old Ordnance Survey maps of London being designed and referenced by NLS – National Library of Scotland.

Stage 4 is to look at the indexing of the site, and add a database friendly search which aids finding a street name, and the relevant pages. I may also build a mobile app.

The London 1832 / 1842 street directory is rather brilliant; and gets better every day.

Kevan