Category: Finding old London pubs

London pub, taverns & coffee houses history random updates

I have been quite busy recently. I am trying to get up the google search for London street directory, with my transcripts of the complete Robsons 1832 directory, plus images of the 1842. This site is fantastically useful and I refer to it all of the time. I am at about 6.2 out of all the millions at present, and climbing.

https://london19.com/streets1832/index.shtml

Another thing I have been up to is getting more detail on some of the early taverns, and coffee houses. I can’t always find which London ward to add these to, especially if they are 1666 or thereabouts, so started adding these to another new site:

https://londontaverns.co.uk/

My favourite is the last entry on the index, the Red Lion, near to Fleet ditch. It makes fascinating reading. I could add more, but this will do for now.

A lot of this detail is in books which are freely available to use and download, and some of them, in fact most of them are actually transcribed on line already, under various guises. I just want the relevant bits to add to a page / s.

I have recently upgraded the server as I was running low on space. I have not seen any main benefits to this yet, but it allows me to add as much stuff as I see fit.

I have probably been up to loads of other things, like redesign of the sites etc. One day the site will be mobile friendly, and I will get there eventually.

My friend Ewan at pubology has just sent me a large Marylebone pub history update, which has been added. I believe there is an even larger one for St Pancras to come soon.

Meanwhile, I spent a little time this evening working on the Seven Dials area of London. I am getting the hang of this area slowly. My examples are those public houses in Monmouth street until about 1846, then the street disappears and reverts as Dudley street for a while, or Broad street for the Kings Head.

All of these streets eventually become part of Shaftesbury avenue. I have not worked this bit out as of yet.

Kevan

More Early pub history for London

I have new blogs building on my site, but for now this one seems quite popular. The pub history site which relates heavily to London and surrounds just gets better every day. I have been adding the 1836 London Pigots directory, and also just completed a first run through of Holdens 1811 directory. Both are good. See the London pub history pages.

These complement my street directories for London in 1832 and 1842 which are a major boon for looking for early pubs in London.

Also, I have just upgraded the server which the sites run on, It is now twice as fast, and has twice as much space. Lots more room for updates.

That’s all for now

Mulberry Tree, Stepney

I have added quite a few updates for the Mulberry Tree today. Lastly, it appears to have existed until at least 1925 at 133 Stepney Green. By 1930 it is the Labour Party Office and Club. I think it looks like a synagogue is also built at about this time.

The Mulberry Tree appears to list from at least 1802, and I list many records from trade directories, licensed victuallers transfers and census to show the relevance of who lived at differing times at this pub. I won’t repeat them here, as they are all listed in a very long and boring list.  But every one of its occupants could probably tell a story.

Just for the record, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of similar pages on my site. None are inspiring, but they do go into quite detailed examination of a public house through time.

Enjoy.

Kevan

I’m never going to be rich, but my sites are fantastic

OK, the story is in the heading. I have been building web sites, good & bad, for about 18 years. The idea was that this would be my pension top-up, apparently not the case. This is not surprising as there are some billions of people out there who also have the same idea. There is also China who steal and copy what they cannot create; probably like the rest of the UK, and the world.

Anyway, along the way, I have built a few sites which are not bad. I always trend in the top ten for pub history, and more recently for London street directory, these are my main identifiers.

I have been let down by google adsense over the years, I believe, but have stuck with this process for a long time. It is simple, and just works. I like a system which is painless, and just does what it should do. It covers my costs for running my own web server, just about.

So, why do I do this? I spend vast amounts of hours updating pages, and building web sites, etc. I could stop any time, and just stare at my phone, like the vast majority of people who need that recognition.

Why do I do this? Because I want to be Number 1, or in the top ten, or just recognised for doing something nobody else can do. Its a recognition thing.

Or whatever.

Kevan

 

London street directory & create a sitemap

Being my normal self, I thought I would have a bit of a change today. So, the london19.com site became important again, it should, what a great name.

I have added the street directories for 1818,1832, 1842, 1843, 1940 and I think that’s all to this site. I have kept all pub stuff on the pub history site, and the 1921 street directory too. I am not sure why I made this decision, but anything can be changed.

The good thing is that the pub history site now has just under 50,000 html pages, which all fit on one sitemap for google. Good old google.

If you are ever interested, i can tell you how to create a site map of even this magnitude in a matter of a minute. Lets do it.

You first need to login via ssh to your linux web site hosting, I use putty which is a free ssh utility. You need to know the correct login details, too.

You then change directory to the top folder for your website, something like :

/var/www/vhosts/p**/httpdocs , e.g. cd /var/www/vhosts/p**/httpdocs

You then run a simple script which finds all files in the folder/s:

find `pwd` > foundthislot.txt

You then need to pick the specifics from this file, i.e. all of the .html pages

cat foundthislot.txt | grep shtml > findjusthtml.txt

Its quite simple.

Download this last file via ftp as you would normally, then do a grand edit of this file so that each line is relevant to the web page you are visiting.

 

Sitemaps are very important, and although this is easy; it took me a couple of years to get this right!

Don’t laugh at me for posting such a ridiculously simple way of creating google sitemaps. It really is that simple, it just took me a long time to realise the potential of linux power against the weakness of running in a Windows environment, which is good for desktop applications only.

You also need to use google webmaster tools to upload the sitemap at some stage, and see how your site is doing in desktop and mobile visibility, but this is another story.

 

 

 

 

Maybe I’m a Londoner

My last blog sounded a bit desperate. sorry, I spend a lot of time getting my sites updated with lots of interesting data content, even if it s all a bit nerdy. Perhaps I have rather a lot of different web sites running under the same name, and I could split them all up into separate entities.

But, no, I will concentrate on what I think I am trying to do, and explore the possibility that what I am trying to achieve is something different from other conventional sites.

Lets see what is on offer on my main site. It covers pub history of some sort for London and most of the South of the country. It is stronger in the London areas, but it does have the restriction that most data is before 1944. Excepting the complete listing of all pubs and bars in 2018.

Then there is more detailed data just on London, mainly to do with pubs from about 1800, and also complete London historical directories for 1832, 1843 and parts of 1921 and 1940.

Then there is a small site I built a while back as nogobritain, which demonstrated the difficulties which people with disabilities have with public transport, and this includes a complete listing of the entire tube network, and links to the relevant detail. some of this may be out of date, but still a damned good try.

More recently, well, the Christmas before last, I built a site or two about the 1918 armistice. As part of this, I honed in on a publication by the LCC which listed every Londoner who worked for the LCC (London County Council) who was involved in service in World War One. All of them, about 10,000, I think. I also added some other records of similar nature.

Then there is the Cosford database of Suffolk, this is part of Suffolk where my early agricultural labourer descendants started. They ended up in London, as did many others as agriculture was overrun by cheaper imports from America, and country folk moved into London to find work. I did quite a bit of research on my Suffolk ancestors by visiting record offices, but this database far outweighed any detail I could find at record offices or online. I saved a copy for merit, from the time machine, it’s brilliant.

I think I have summarised my main site, although I have others which research other areas of pub history and early taverns, coffee houses etc etc.

All my sites are searchable by one search engine, it is far from perfect, but I use it a lot.

One last point, I had a drive into London on the second day of the new year. It was an enjoyable drive, and I photographed a number of pubs which were useful. Obviously, driving in London is not conducive with taking photographs, and I got my first £65 fine through today for this! Whoops.

 

 

 

Fulham pub history

An interesting couple of days updating the early pub history of Fulham. It is not complete, I never complete an area, as I cover far too much, but it has had two full days of my time or maybe more.

I think of Fulham as being a very expensive area to live, I believe I am correct. I was surprised as to how many of the modern multi-million pound properties that are, or were, pubs; were in actual fact just a beer house. There were originally mostly beer houses in this area, and I am presuming they were serving the local barracks and the gas works. I have not researched this in detail, just the pubs.

I still have a few more updates to do, and move a couple of properties from Hammersmith back to Fulham, with relevant updates.

Enjoy,

Kevan