Bethnal Green pubs, E1, E2 or E3

Most Bethnal Green pubs are in E2, this is the post code district for those who do not understand the system.

I am nearly completed on adding a simple post code to all Bethnal Green pubs & beer houses etc.

The next step, for all of London is to create an index page for all of the post codes, e,g, E1, E2, EC1, etc etc.

What did hold me back for a while was that a new site was refused advertising by google ads because it was a scaper site, well it isn’t, but I am going to do what I want to do on my sites anyway, so bog off!

I do rely on advertising to pay for my sites, and if they do not at least cover the costs, I will just remove everything – I am sure I have done this before.

More to come sometime, and as you can see, I don’t actually do this for money, just charitable scraps.



The siege of Sidney street, Mile end E1 and publicans

I have been researching Sidney street in Mile end today. I received a couple of rather excellent photographs of the 1911 siege of Sidney street when some Latvian anarchists were held siege for seven hours. It is a brilliant way of researching an area, having a story to tell.

What I also like to add to the story is something about the families of the time, in my case the licensees of the Sidney Arms, a beer house at 131 Sidney street; and also the Rising Sun at 131 Sidney street. Both of these buildings were probably demolished in world war two from incendary devices, bombs, doodlebugs etc. In fact they had both stopped trading by this time, and no pubs existed in Sidney street, but this is incidental. I looked at the area on google maps a moment ago, and nearly the entire street has now been rebuilt with modern architecture.

More of interest to me was the licensee Phillip Goldapple who was listed in the 1911 census at the Rising Sun. He was only there for another five years before moving on to the Fountain in Jamaica street; and  it was not until you start researching a particular surname do you find the story of the family for at least the next fifty years in the East end licensing trade. I am almost certainly missing many of the other family members who also had pubs, but the Knave of Clubs , in Bethnal green road, was in the family from at least 1934 to 1964, probably longer.

That’s it really. And there’s lots more detail on the site/s. Another interest I discovered was whilst researching some of the incendiary devices (bombs) dropped on London and this will be another story to tell. There is lots of useful detail online and available to view at London museums and the London Metropolitan archive.

A quick update on the 1832 / 1842 London street directory

I have been updating the London 1832 street directory again today, for about 14 hours so far tody. I am currently working backwards from Y, and now working on S. I am completing each letter for the quite inferior 1832 directory listings, and also adding 1842 images for ten years later which give considerably more trade detail etc.

I cannot believe the number of mistakes in the 1832 Robsons directory, I mean serious mistakes all the way through the directory. It is still an useful listing. As I have been working through this street directory listing the errors have become more and more apparent – I am not the greatest at proof reading; but this directory is really quite bad!

Anyway, nearly the entirety of S is now online, including many of the 1842 images, including the likes of  Shoreditch High street, all the Smithfields, East, West, Lower etc; and Shadwell. It all starts to look rather good, and I am jolly proud of this.

Meanwhile, our tortoise, Fenton, has decided it looks like winter is coming and did not wake today. He has had a brilliant year this year with me being around all the time, and has doubled in size. I believe a tortoise does not just work on temperatures, but has a natural barometer built into his body system. A PhD suggestion for someone!

I will complete the London trip of the bridges at some stage, as there are still a lot which have been missed from the last post.


London 1832 street directory of London

I seem to be getting there slowly, if this makes sense. I cannot believe how long it is taking me to add a solitary street directory of London.

It will be useful once I have added this, and images of the 1842 street directory which give a considerable amount of detail as regards trade details for a street.

I am also adding links from this 1832 directory to the relevant pubs at the time. You can then see where these pubs addresses changed through time as street renaming took place in all of London to remove common street names.

Anyway, I am working through letters C & G at present, and all will be complete soon, mehopes.



Old bethnal green road through time and renumbering in 1875

I have been adding more updates for Bethnal Green, in fact I have nearly completed the massive update from Ewan who runs the pubology site. His site links to all the history of pubs through time on my site; and he spends hours looking through old maps, and census etc to supply me with historic updates.

Part of the updates included matching the various beer retailers which existed and are not named in the directories, you find names for them in the census detail and other places, but the road numbering jumps about quite a lot. And, to make matters worse, the census numbering rarely matches that of the directories, sometimes it does.

So, I was thinking about using a road or street in London to make my first concept page on how I would like to correlate lots of detail on this one street or road.

Old Bethnal Green road fits this trend, and is also not too large to test this out on. so this is my first page using these ideas. You can view the various years between 1862 and 1875, and compare a couple of years at a time – and I am still confused! I will add some more over the next day or two, but I think the idea is great; and simple like me.

I won’t attempt to put the comparisons in a table format, as I am also attempting to make the site more mobile friendly, and therefore this just defeats the object.

So, Old Bethnal Green road renumbering in a nut shell. Currently without the pubs links added, but I will. Or just visit the very long list of Bethnal Green pubs through time.

I will also leave this page as it is, but the final pages will be on my new site on which I am building a massive database of early London streets, and currently updating London 1832 with every street or road listed in the Robsons directory. This is a labour of love, and also I rely on the odd adsense clicks to pay for my sites.

After all, I am retired now! Enjoy.

Bethnal Green and other early pub history

A quick blog on todays merits on my London history site. Well, actually the last few days. Being retired ought to bring relief in getting things done! Well, I am massively busy, and I suppose I am catching up on many other tasks, like two trips to the local rubbish tip, and lots more.

In the meantime, regulars keep posting updates for the amazing pub history site, e.g. Ian McInnes is updating my Dulwich pages, a few at a time; Vincent O’Loughlin is sending a vast array of imagery for Battersea and much more, including modern pictures, 1970s film shots and 1880 to 1920 photographs, mostly pubs.

And Ewan, who runs the amazing pubology site, regularly sends me updates for a specific post code, the latest being Bethnal Green. I have been adding this update for the last four days so far – some updates are minor, others are amazing lists of pre-1830 licensees for a specific Bethnal Green pub, etc.

A few additions were noted in Church street, Bethnal Green; and I have just added the 1832 Robsons street directory and the 1842 Robsons directory images for this street. This is part of my requirement to list an entire street directory of 1832 in London. It is getting there fairly quickly.

A brief word on Bethnal Green. In the Victorian era, and probably earlier, this was probably the poorest part of London, along with a brilliant read of Sarah Wise, and “the Blackest streets”, which I read whilst on holiday recently.

Sarah Wise is an amazing historian, and author who takes you into a world, almost like a modern day Charles Dickens. I will not tell you more, read it, it will absorb your entire life for the days that you are reading this astounding life of  the rich and church alike, charging exorbitant rents to those in severe poverty; and their many struggles.

Not much changes there, and the masses who have bought their cheap council houses and cheap privatisation shares still vote in their numbers for a Tory Government totally devoid of any form of human empathy. Read Maslows ‘levels of needs’ if you want to understand any of this.