Month: August 2018

Old bethnal green road through time and renumbering in 1875

I have been adding more updates for Bethnal Green, in fact I have nearly completed the massive update from Ewan who runs the pubology site. His site links to all the history of pubs through time on my pubshistory.com site; and he spends hours looking through old maps, and census etc to supply me with historic updates.

Part of the updates included matching the various beer retailers which existed and are not named in the directories, you find names for them in the census detail and other places, but the road numbering jumps about quite a lot. And, to make matters worse, the census numbering rarely matches that of the directories, sometimes it does.

So, I was thinking about using a road or street in London to make my first concept page on how I would like to correlate lots of detail on this one street or road.

Old Bethnal Green road fits this trend, and is also not too large to test this out on. so this is my first page using these ideas. You can view the various years between 1862 and 1875, and compare a couple of years at a time – and I am still confused! I will add some more over the next day or two, but I think the idea is great; and simple like me.

I won’t attempt to put the comparisons in a table format, as I am also attempting to make the site more mobile friendly, and therefore this just defeats the object.

So, Old Bethnal Green road renumbering in a nut shell. Currently without the pubs links added, but I will. Or just visit the very long list of Bethnal Green pubs through time.

I will also leave this page as it is, but the final pages will be on my new site london19.com on which I am building a massive database of early London streets, and currently updating London 1832 with every street or road listed in the Robsons directory. This is a labour of love, and also I rely on the odd adsense clicks to pay for my sites.

After all, I am retired now! Enjoy.

Bethnal Green and other early pub history

A quick blog on todays merits on my London history site. Well, actually the last few days. Being retired ought to bring relief in getting things done! Well, I am massively busy, and I suppose I am catching up on many other tasks, like two trips to the local rubbish tip, and lots more.

In the meantime, regulars keep posting updates for the amazing pub history site, e.g. Ian McInnes is updating my Dulwich pages, a few at a time; Vincent O’Loughlin is sending a vast array of imagery for Battersea and much more, including modern pictures, 1970s film shots and 1880 to 1920 photographs, mostly pubs.

And Ewan, who runs the amazing pubology site, regularly sends me updates for a specific post code, the latest being Bethnal Green. I have been adding this update for the last four days so far – some updates are minor, others are amazing lists of pre-1830 licensees for a specific Bethnal Green pub, etc.

A few additions were noted in Church street, Bethnal Green; and I have just added the 1832 Robsons street directory and the 1842 Robsons directory images for this street. This is part of my requirement to list an entire street directory of 1832 in London. It is getting there fairly quickly.

A brief word on Bethnal Green. In the Victorian era, and probably earlier, this was probably the poorest part of London, along with a brilliant read of Sarah Wise, and “the Blackest streets”, which I read whilst on holiday recently.

Sarah Wise is an amazing historian, and author who takes you into a world, almost like a modern day Charles Dickens. I will not tell you more, read it, it will absorb your entire life for the days that you are reading this astounding life of  the rich and church alike, charging exorbitant rents to those in severe poverty; and their many struggles.

Not much changes there, and the masses who have bought their cheap council houses and cheap privatisation shares still vote in their numbers for a Tory Government totally devoid of any form of human empathy. Read Maslows ‘levels of needs’ if you want to understand any of this.

Enough.

Kevan

London street directory in search engines

I know this sounds very sad, but I live for the responses I get in search engines, particularly google. I also just checked out Bing to see how I am doing. Sad, but true.

I currently believe I am #1,2 6 and 7 in google for pub history. This sounds about right; it changes at different times of day depending on the google servers I am communicating with.

I am also trying to build a presence for the search ‘London street directory’, and I am doing pretty well, roughly about #6 for my pub history site & #26 for the newer London19 site; both in google. This will improve over time, the pub history site has been about 20 years in the making; the latter site I started in the last few weeks!

The main barrier has been making the sites applicable to web search from mobile phones, the appearance of a site on a desktop PC is very different to that on a mobile phone, and there is very little out there to explain the differences. It is a very closely guarded secret.

I am winning, I think.

The other barrier has been those who are interested in early pub history are generally only interested in a specific address, which makes sense. The site/s are slowly building on the early street directories of London specifically. The site I am working on is the entirety of London in 1832, which is five years before Queen Victoria came to the throne!

This site also includes details from 1842, five years after Victoria was crowned. The site is not only a very early listing in London, it also links to my pub history site, which is absolutely brilliant.

Kevan

 

London 1832, 1842 street directory

I have had a rather good day on the London street directory. I fell asleep last night looking at the Museum of London web site, this is a brilliant place to visit. And with my limited IT skills, I wanted to create something similar.

It is far from this level, but I am quite pleased with the result. I now have a page of transcription in 1832, in London, plus a small image of the 1842 street directory.

Here is an example, mostly for the letter O at present – London 1832 street directory

I have altered the page layout so that this works for both desktops and mobiles, I think.

I also cycled four miles, as compared to yesterdays five miles; tomorrow I will do ten miles! This is part of my keep-fit campaign.

 

Update for Wapping High Street in 1832 and beyond.

I started the day transcribing the relevant parts of the Holden 1811 directory, finishing the letter I and moving slowly to the letter M – this is the surname of the licensee or wine & brandy merchant, etc. etc. I am slowly moving the site earlier, if I can; and particularly in London.

I noticed there seemed to be a pattern of specific streets recurring in this listing, in particular, Wapping High street, for example.

##Although I am now retired with lots of spare time, I rarely have enough to do all I need to do! Up at 8am today, my wife had already left me, to sing with the Gamesmaker choir at the hockey semi-finals at Stratford, she’s home now. Apparently, although England were knocked out by Netherlands in the quarters. Ireland beat Spain today, and are the unexpected finalists on Sunday. My daughter has also been to Brighton to enjoy the gay pride regatta, and also returned. I had a quiet day.

Today, I have  worked through the 1811 Holdens directory, added Wapping High street & Wapping wall street directories for 1832; and updated many other pages, with links etc.

I have found two new (VERY OLD) pubs in Wapping High street, and added them to the site pages.

So, what have I learnt? Well, there were a mass of pubs in Wapping High street in 1832. How many are there now? Not many. How many then? a hell of a lot. Enjoy the site/s.

The point of this post? No idea, but I enjoyed it. And lots more to come.